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Giants Baby! And Real Estate Too -sfnewsletter 10/17/14

sfn_logo2I just published my most recent issue of sfnewsletter (sign up at sfnewsletter.com), complete with a couple market stories and a new link to awesome things like Top 20 Overbids, Top 20 Underbids (they exist), Recent Sales, New Listings, and Stalefish (Properties on the market 30+ days):

Giants Baby! — And Real Estate Too — sfnewsletter 10/17/14

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The 30+ Club

From 333 Grant #707 to 4348 21st St, an $11,000,000 Penthouse at the Four Seasons to a 1 bedroom condo on the 46th Floor of that big ol’ tower by the Bay Bridge, there is a little category out there that is often overlooked and it’s high time it gets the attention it deserves: Properties on the market more than 30 days a.k.a the 30+ Club.

As much as I like to highlight Overbids and Underbids, properties that make the jaw drop, multi-million dollar sales, and my own triumphs, this category should actually get more attention, because if you have a property to sell in San Francisco and it hasn’t sold or gone in contract within 30 days, you’re doing something wrong, and if you’re a buyer continually getting beat out by the other guy, there is opportunity right here under your nose.

So get on the list, and if you’re an agent, send this list to your clients, and let’s help put some of these Stalefish out of their misery.

*This data is deemed reliable, but not guaranteed accurate by the MLS or myself, although it’s pretty damn close to 100%.

-30+ Club: list of properties on the market 30 Days Or More

Stalefish: San Francisco’s New Delicacy

About once a month, on sfnewsletter, we put out our list of Stalefish Properties for our readers’ delight. Today, we thought we’d share that same list with you, and highlight some of the Stalefish swimming in that Stale Pond.

175 Bright…future not so bright. It is a short sale (possibly the reason it still shows as active) and has spent a meager 291 days on the market. Maybe it’s because it shows “0 bedrooms, 0 baths”. That could be an issue.
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So you’ve heard of the “Little Engine That Could”, but what about the Little $6Million Firehouse That Can’t Sell? We have one of those in our Stale Pond too:
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Fans of Kirkwood Ski Resort? Well set this Stalefish free and live at 1526 Kirkwood St. in San Francisco…only 322 days on market:
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Take your pick at the Ritz, where for a mere $5.4Million you can get an unfinished slice of pie in the sky.
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Not a fan of the raw, un-finished Stalefish swimming in the Ritz pond? Fear not, there are plenty of fully cooked units to choose from.

Remember that ultra slick, sleek, can’t do no wrong building called the Brannan? Well, you can get this Stalefish for $1.4M (down from $1.8M), but beware…we see a ghost (likely just an agent skimping on photographer expenses) in that glass!
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So what’s the moral of this Stalefish story. Although San Francisco’s Stalefish pond is filling up with properties, there are still many tasty treats to be had and buyers have bargaining chips on their side, so don’t be shy…jump in the Stale Pond with both feet and see what you can find swimming on the bottom!

[Editor's Note: What is a Stalefish? A property that has been on the market 100+ days (give or take). Nothing more, nothing less.]

You Changed Your DOM But Were Never BOM, 4148 23rd St Returns

You know that feeling you get when you meet someone and you just know you’ve seen them before, but you just can’t figure out where? Well, fortunately for us folks in the biz of real estate, we have this little feature called “property history” that is becoming all too necessary to check religiously. As it turns out, we have seen 4148 23rd St (4 bed, 2.5 bath, Renovated Noe Valley Edwardian) before.

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We saw her first in 1998 when she sold for $435,000. Then we saw her again (with a face-lift) in April of 2008 for $1,799,000 when she was on the market for 140 days and pulled off the market in August. She resurfaced (very briefly) in December of 2008 with the same look, only different price ($1,599,000 or 11% less than before) and a fresh new DOM (days on market) of zero. Come to think of it, we never did see her BOM (back on market).

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Now we see her again in January 2009 with the same price, but new DOM, and still no BOM. This can only mean she never did find a suitor. So why the new DOM? It’s a trick we agents play, and the public is on to us.

We knew we saw her before, and it almost slipped passed us. Now we’re left to wonder what she’ll look like when we see her again…SOLD, BOM, or with yet another new DOM?

-4148 23rd St, $1,599,000 [listing detail page by sfnewsletter]
-Resetting DOM, Buyers Speak Up, ABC News Nightline Is Listening [theFrontSteps]

Reduction, Ad Nauseum

I’m not a Realtor, so I’ll tell something I’m more qualified to comment on: buyers’ perspectives. For instance, I can tell you how buyers looks at a property that’s been reduced more than twice. We feel sorry for them. They’re like awkward teenage boys at their first dance, pretending to be terribly busy with their shoe laces to avoid eye contact. We all know these boys can’t really be too picky; they have to take what they can get.

This analogy might not totally work for reduced priced properties. I’m just saying that as a buyer, we tend to feel a lot more powerful when we notice a home’s asking has come down not once, but twice– a feeling that multiplies with each subsequent reduction. That’s why, as a seller, I’d really hope my agent were savvy enough to price my home right. Of course, we can’t, unless we are Dione Warwick, know what the future holds, and some of the current meltdown has caught us by surprise. Still, the writing’s been on the wall awhile. Most literate people, I’d think, would have read it.

Case in point the next three properties, whose reduction history goes from bad to worse.

1. Studio TIC at 1059 Leavenworth St #5 San Francisco, CA 94109. Current price: $325,000. In over 120 days on the market, the list price has come down thrice:

Jul 02, 2008 $399,000
Jul 03, 2008 $329,000
Sep 09, 2008 $325,000 

2. 532 Clipper St #B San Francisco, CA 94114, currently at $539,000 is a 2 bed/1 bath TIC flat. In over 170 days on the market, it’s suffered 5 reductions, each one not very big, but the conglomeration of so many price cuts is pretty damning:

May 14, 2008 $679,000
Jun 11, 2008 $659,000
Aug 13, 2008 $639,000
Aug 28, 2008 $599,000
Sep 25, 2008 $570,000
Oct 28, 2008 $539,000

3. 3630 22nd St., San Francisco, CA.  A 2bed/1bath detached cottage TIC, this one I’ve saved for “worst” because though it has not been cut as often as the above property, the overall slash down is quite dramatic. In over 100 days on the market:

Jul 18, 2008 $749,000
Sep 05, 2008 $649,000
Oct 06, 2008 $589,000
Oct 29, 2008 $499,000

In this last case, the current price seems a lot more fair. I went to the open house yesterday and the listing agent informed me the place needed about $250K in repair and pest control. I have to wonder who would have ever, ever, ever paid the original list price.

I also wonder what other SF real estate agents or buyers or sellers think of these reductions overall, so I’m serving this blog up on the Front Steps for commentary. Take it easy on those awkward teen age boys though. Everyone, and everything, is fragile right now.