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	<title>Comments on: But Oh The Potential! 469 Clipper Returns ($979,000)</title>
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		<title>By: Asad</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/11/13/but-oh-the-potential-469-clipper-returns-979000/comment-page-1/#comment-9267</link>
		<dc:creator>Asad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So someone has already blown 300k on this place and now it&#039;s up for the next lucky investor.  fluj is right a realtor didn&#039;t buy it, they are too smart to throw their own money at the SF market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So someone has already blown 300k on this place and now it&#8217;s up for the next lucky investor.  fluj is right a realtor didn&#8217;t buy it, they are too smart to throw their own money at the SF market.</p>
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		<title>By: Yookli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yookli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s down to 765K now. I have an interest and I could probably pull it off. But it would have to go down in price significantly, and as a project seems to be a disaster waiting to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s down to 765K now. I have an interest and I could probably pull it off. But it would have to go down in price significantly, and as a project seems to be a disaster waiting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: fluj</title>
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		<dc:creator>fluj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that it isn&#039;t worth 2M+. It has the potentiall to be really huge, with two car parking and a south facing lot. Yes, Clipper is a big minus, but it&#039;s quite a walkable Clipper block. Why are the realtors the ones who are smoking weed? A realtor didn&#039;t buy it for 1.02M, cash, and then give up on it. 

Now that it&#039;s at 825K there&#039;s probably a play. Agreed tho, the margins are not there for spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that it isn&#8217;t worth 2M+. It has the potentiall to be really huge, with two car parking and a south facing lot. Yes, Clipper is a big minus, but it&#8217;s quite a walkable Clipper block. Why are the realtors the ones who are smoking weed? A realtor didn&#8217;t buy it for 1.02M, cash, and then give up on it. </p>
<p>Now that it&#8217;s at 825K there&#8217;s probably a play. Agreed tho, the margins are not there for spec.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when you legalize pot and give it to Realtors.  

What is the story behind this?

The property was purchased a year or so ago and it was later discovered that the &quot;plans&quot; could not be approved.  This is a tear down that cannot be torn down.  The only option is to renovate it.  It needs over a million in renovations.  The question is, will it be worth over $2 million when it is done.  

The answer: &quot;No&quot;

Maybe $1.5, but to get some to risk $1.5 million of cash to make nothing is just stupid.  There must be a reasonable rate of return for the risk.  I would say 25% is fair.  If the finished value is $1.5 mil and the renovations are about $1 mil, the sale price must be in the $200-300k range for it to have ANY chance of being a good investment.

Of course you could just smoke more pot and hope that a really stupid rich person comes along and wants to throw a million at you.  Have you looked at the real estate market recently?  You can&#039;t get anything for under $2 mil in SF.  Oh wait, you can. . .idiots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when you legalize pot and give it to Realtors.  </p>
<p>What is the story behind this?</p>
<p>The property was purchased a year or so ago and it was later discovered that the &#8220;plans&#8221; could not be approved.  This is a tear down that cannot be torn down.  The only option is to renovate it.  It needs over a million in renovations.  The question is, will it be worth over $2 million when it is done.  </p>
<p>The answer: &#8220;No&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe $1.5, but to get some to risk $1.5 million of cash to make nothing is just stupid.  There must be a reasonable rate of return for the risk.  I would say 25% is fair.  If the finished value is $1.5 mil and the renovations are about $1 mil, the sale price must be in the $200-300k range for it to have ANY chance of being a good investment.</p>
<p>Of course you could just smoke more pot and hope that a really stupid rich person comes along and wants to throw a million at you.  Have you looked at the real estate market recently?  You can&#8217;t get anything for under $2 mil in SF.  Oh wait, you can. . .idiots!</p>
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		<title>By: thefrontsteps</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefrontsteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plans are not approved.  They are &quot;preliminary&quot; and an example of what one could do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plans are not approved.  They are &#8220;preliminary&#8221; and an example of what one could do.</p>
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		<title>By: Noe Valley, SF</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/11/13/but-oh-the-potential-469-clipper-returns-979000/comment-page-1/#comment-6668</link>
		<dc:creator>Noe Valley, SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &lt;a href=&quot;http://noevalleysf.blogspot.com/2008/10/fall-in-noe-valley-spiders.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;protective tenant&lt;/a&gt; should be moving out soon. ;)

Very curious to see if this one sells quickly. This is the first true fixer in the &#039;hood since the economy collapsed. While Noe has faired better than other areas, banks and developers seem to be a bit gun shy. 

Are those plans approved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That <a href="http://noevalleysf.blogspot.com/2008/10/fall-in-noe-valley-spiders.html" rel="nofollow">protective tenant</a> should be moving out soon. <img src='http://thefrontsteps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Very curious to see if this one sells quickly. This is the first true fixer in the &#8216;hood since the economy collapsed. While Noe has faired better than other areas, banks and developers seem to be a bit gun shy. </p>
<p>Are those plans approved?</p>
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