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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/07/09/greener-than-thou-san-francisco-is-green-are-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5129</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was kidding about the prius.



car &amp; driver says smart cars only get 32 mpg.  what gives?  my old corolla got 38, but you had to roll the windows down yourself.



i am greener than you because i never shower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was kidding about the prius.</p>
<p>car &amp; driver says smart cars only get 32 mpg.  what gives?  my old corolla got 38, but you had to roll the windows down yourself.</p>
<p>i am greener than you because i never shower.</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares about Curbed.  Do whatever you want.  They do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares about Curbed.  Do whatever you want.  They do!</p>
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		<title>By: rockys dad</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/07/09/greener-than-thou-san-francisco-is-green-are-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5127</link>
		<dc:creator>rockys dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he may think he&#039;s a flying squirrel, but he&#039;s very much a rambunctious young boy.



although he does have a tail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he may think he&#8217;s a flying squirrel, but he&#8217;s very much a rambunctious young boy.</p>
<p>although he does have a tail.</p>
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		<title>By: bullwinkle's dad</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/07/09/greener-than-thou-san-francisco-is-green-are-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>bullwinkle's dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky doesn&#039;t need to drive. He is a flying squirrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocky doesn&#8217;t need to drive. He is a flying squirrel.</p>
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		<title>By: rockys dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockys dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am green than thou because:



1. I removed almost 1200 square feet of ugly sidewalk at my house and replaced it with drought tolerant, native California plantings and 7 trees. the rainwater drains thru naturally and the landscape enhances the environment.



2. I&#039;ve ordered a Smart car.



3. Rocky isn&#039;t allowed to drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am green than thou because:</p>
<p>1. I removed almost 1200 square feet of ugly sidewalk at my house and replaced it with drought tolerant, native California plantings and 7 trees. the rainwater drains thru naturally and the landscape enhances the environment.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;ve ordered a Smart car.</p>
<p>3. Rocky isn&#8217;t allowed to drive.</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no info on the hybrids but do the same as anon8mizer and whoever wrote the original post, alex maybe?  That&#039;s in regards to food scraps.



That battery issue for the hybrids sounds like a headache.  have any of you experienced some of these ultra efficient diesels they drive around europe.  We rented a ford focus wagon not too long ago in Europe and I swear the thing got 90 miles to the gallon.  We thought the needle was broken on the gauge.



oh, I am greener than thou because my uncle owns a farm in Vermont and lives completely off the land, recycles, composts the whole bit.  So when I go there, I get a lesson in the true &quot;greening&quot; of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no info on the hybrids but do the same as anon8mizer and whoever wrote the original post, alex maybe?  That&#8217;s in regards to food scraps.</p>
<p>That battery issue for the hybrids sounds like a headache.  have any of you experienced some of these ultra efficient diesels they drive around europe.  We rented a ford focus wagon not too long ago in Europe and I swear the thing got 90 miles to the gallon.  We thought the needle was broken on the gauge.</p>
<p>oh, I am greener than thou because my uncle owns a farm in Vermont and lives completely off the land, recycles, composts the whole bit.  So when I go there, I get a lesson in the true &#8220;greening&#8221; of America.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about those hybrids...I am not yet persuaded that they save the environment. The most ugly and poluting garbage is the battery, and the hybrids have HUGE batteries.



Yes, it saves gas, but wait for 10 years and the clean-up for the batteries will be a big mess.



Does anyone have any info on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about those hybrids&#8230;I am not yet persuaded that they save the environment. The most ugly and poluting garbage is the battery, and the hybrids have HUGE batteries.</p>
<p>Yes, it saves gas, but wait for 10 years and the clean-up for the batteries will be a big mess.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any info on that?</p>
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		<title>By: anon8mizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon8mizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not greener than thou. I am just catching up...



I bought a kitchen compost container (a small green compost container with a carbon filter on top so it filters the foul smell). It&#039;s about 3 gallons big and fits in the cabinet under the sink. I put all the food scrap there, and then once it&#039;s full I take it to the green compost garbage bin in the garage and dump it there.



I have to say my black garbage bin output has been reduced dramaticly and it does feel pretty good.



In a way, sorting out foodscraps into the compost bin is not much of a &#039;savings&#039; for the environment because the foodscraps will decompose well in garbage dumps anyway. But oh well... :)



What I have noticed is that there is no good kitchen-sized compost holder available in the market. Most of them are either too small (like 1 gallon size), or too ugly (not shiny stainless enough for you to put it outside against the wall). Somebody should design a stainless compost holder that&#039;s about 5-7 gallon capacity and looks good enough to go with the  stainless garbage can.



Same for recycles...



As far as the prius is concerned, I did look into it. But concluded that the total cost of ownership for 5 years, for my driving distances, will be more (by about $3-$4k) even if I added the gas savings (assuming a $4.5-$5 gas/gallon) because of the premiums people are asking on the car. Also, the uncertainty of replacing teh battery or disposing of it, etc... makes feel it&#039;s not yet the solution for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not greener than thou. I am just catching up&#8230;</p>
<p>I bought a kitchen compost container (a small green compost container with a carbon filter on top so it filters the foul smell). It&#8217;s about 3 gallons big and fits in the cabinet under the sink. I put all the food scrap there, and then once it&#8217;s full I take it to the green compost garbage bin in the garage and dump it there.</p>
<p>I have to say my black garbage bin output has been reduced dramaticly and it does feel pretty good.</p>
<p>In a way, sorting out foodscraps into the compost bin is not much of a &#8216;savings&#8217; for the environment because the foodscraps will decompose well in garbage dumps anyway. But oh well&#8230; <img src='http://thefrontsteps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What I have noticed is that there is no good kitchen-sized compost holder available in the market. Most of them are either too small (like 1 gallon size), or too ugly (not shiny stainless enough for you to put it outside against the wall). Somebody should design a stainless compost holder that&#8217;s about 5-7 gallon capacity and looks good enough to go with the  stainless garbage can.</p>
<p>Same for recycles&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the prius is concerned, I did look into it. But concluded that the total cost of ownership for 5 years, for my driving distances, will be more (by about $3-$4k) even if I added the gas savings (assuming a $4.5-$5 gas/gallon) because of the premiums people are asking on the car. Also, the uncertainty of replacing teh battery or disposing of it, etc&#8230; makes feel it&#8217;s not yet the solution for me.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m greener than you because i sprung for the dealer-installed &quot;george bush is evil&quot; bumper-sticker package on my new prius!



oh, wait.  that doesn&#039;t mean i&#039;m greener than you , just better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m greener than you because i sprung for the dealer-installed &#8220;george bush is evil&#8221; bumper-sticker package on my new prius!</p>
<p>oh, wait.  that doesn&#8217;t mean i&#8217;m greener than you , just better.</p>
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		<title>By: 40YrOldRenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>40YrOldRenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line for cars, buy second hand, not some new Prius that just adds to emmissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line for cars, buy second hand, not some new Prius that just adds to emmissions.</p>
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