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	<title>Comments on: Ped vs. Muni&#8230;again!</title>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/01/17/ped-vs-muniagain/comment-page-1/#comment-3739</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to the one of the commenters and witnesses over on n-judah chronicles, this poor fellow was running to catch the train, jumped and missed the bottom of the stairs to board.  that&#039;s how he ended up underneath the train being dragged to his death.  i don&#039;t understand why someone couldn&#039;t pull an emergency stop button or cord and just watched this however.



that is almost worse than the death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to the one of the commenters and witnesses over on n-judah chronicles, this poor fellow was running to catch the train, jumped and missed the bottom of the stairs to board.  that&#8217;s how he ended up underneath the train being dragged to his death.  i don&#8217;t understand why someone couldn&#8217;t pull an emergency stop button or cord and just watched this however.</p>
<p>that is almost worse than the death.</p>
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		<title>By: Luba Muzichenko</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/01/17/ped-vs-muniagain/comment-page-1/#comment-3738</link>
		<dc:creator>Luba Muzichenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been driving past the intersection of 9th and Judah and 9th and Irving for YEARS and I can&#039;t believe there haven&#039;t been more accidents over the years.  I think that the drivers are not only &quot;rude, lack basic social skills, and generally really horrible drivers&quot;, I think they are color blind and don&#039;t know the difference between red and green.



As for not complaining and taking action - I&#039;ve called MUNI several times to complain about specific drivers running lights, etc. and have been told that the only way to have a driver punished (for lack of a better word) is to file a complaint and then attend a hearing and act as a witness.  However, every time I filed a complaint, I never heard from them again.  And honestly, I didn&#039;t have the energy to pursue them over and over again.



So, unfortunately, I&#039;ve just accepted MUNI drivers being crappy drivers as a fact of life, kind of like the fact that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.  Say la vie.



(And yes - my thoughts do go out to the &quot;victims of MUNI&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been driving past the intersection of 9th and Judah and 9th and Irving for YEARS and I can&#8217;t believe there haven&#8217;t been more accidents over the years.  I think that the drivers are not only &#8220;rude, lack basic social skills, and generally really horrible drivers&#8221;, I think they are color blind and don&#8217;t know the difference between red and green.</p>
<p>As for not complaining and taking action &#8211; I&#8217;ve called MUNI several times to complain about specific drivers running lights, etc. and have been told that the only way to have a driver punished (for lack of a better word) is to file a complaint and then attend a hearing and act as a witness.  However, every time I filed a complaint, I never heard from them again.  And honestly, I didn&#8217;t have the energy to pursue them over and over again.</p>
<p>So, unfortunately, I&#8217;ve just accepted MUNI drivers being crappy drivers as a fact of life, kind of like the fact that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.  Say la vie.</p>
<p>(And yes &#8211; my thoughts do go out to the &#8220;victims of MUNI&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/01/17/ped-vs-muniagain/comment-page-1/#comment-3740</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you just dont get it... the rules are always &quot;except muni&quot;.

no left turn - except Muni

no entry - except Muni

no stopping - except Muni  and so on, on half of the traffic signs in the city.

then the drivers are so brained washed about all those &#039;except Muni&#039; that they assume ALL the traffic rules (laws AND curtesy) are &#039;except Muni&#039;.



Surprisingly, Muni tries to impove *a little*. There was a problem on our Muni line, and a neighbor took the time to find the right number, phone the right person - and they did what we were wishing (change signs etc) very rapidly (like a month or so).



There is that rule: stop complaining - do something.

If you know of a specific traffic violation or other hazardous recurrent situation, please send a complain BEFORE we read more of those horror stories in the news.

http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mcontact/indxmucont.htm



Our thoughs go to the families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just dont get it&#8230; the rules are always &#8220;except muni&#8221;.</p>
<p>no left turn &#8211; except Muni</p>
<p>no entry &#8211; except Muni</p>
<p>no stopping &#8211; except Muni  and so on, on half of the traffic signs in the city.</p>
<p>then the drivers are so brained washed about all those &#8216;except Muni&#8217; that they assume ALL the traffic rules (laws AND curtesy) are &#8216;except Muni&#8217;.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, Muni tries to impove *a little*. There was a problem on our Muni line, and a neighbor took the time to find the right number, phone the right person &#8211; and they did what we were wishing (change signs etc) very rapidly (like a month or so).</p>
<p>There is that rule: stop complaining &#8211; do something.</p>
<p>If you know of a specific traffic violation or other hazardous recurrent situation, please send a complain BEFORE we read more of those horror stories in the news.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mcontact/indxmucont.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mcontact/indxmucont.htm</a></p>
<p>Our thoughs go to the families.</p>
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		<title>By: Dede</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2008/01/17/ped-vs-muniagain/comment-page-1/#comment-3737</link>
		<dc:creator>Dede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with Dave...though it would be interesting to see if the in bus/trolley camera program to catch cars in transit lanes actually catches Muni running lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Dave&#8230;though it would be interesting to see if the in bus/trolley camera program to catch cars in transit lanes actually catches Muni running lights.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My rule is that I won&#039;t walk in front of a Muni bus or train. I just won&#039;t do it. In the Inner Sunset there&#039;s an intersection at 9th and Irving where outbound trains make a left from Irving onto 9th avenue. As a pedestrian, even if I&#039;d have the right of way but there was a Muni train waiting to turn onto 9th I wouldn&#039;t cross for the simple fact that the Muni driver so frequently doesn&#039;t yield or if he/she does yield it&#039;s done perfunctorily and the train is already rolling into the turn as you begin your crossing (same thing happens when it turns onto Judah).



Same thing at 4 way-stops in the various neighborhoods. I let the damn things pass...



RIP to the person who died in this horrible accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My rule is that I won&#8217;t walk in front of a Muni bus or train. I just won&#8217;t do it. In the Inner Sunset there&#8217;s an intersection at 9th and Irving where outbound trains make a left from Irving onto 9th avenue. As a pedestrian, even if I&#8217;d have the right of way but there was a Muni train waiting to turn onto 9th I wouldn&#8217;t cross for the simple fact that the Muni driver so frequently doesn&#8217;t yield or if he/she does yield it&#8217;s done perfunctorily and the train is already rolling into the turn as you begin your crossing (same thing happens when it turns onto Judah).</p>
<p>Same thing at 4 way-stops in the various neighborhoods. I let the damn things pass&#8230;</p>
<p>RIP to the person who died in this horrible accident.</p>
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