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	<title>Comments on: Calculating Square Footage in San Francisco: &#8220;Comment du Jour&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Reno</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/09/20/calculating-square-footage-in-san-francisco-comment-du-jour/comment-page-1/#comment-8469</link>
		<dc:creator>Reno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that the 2nd level of a loft cannot be more than 30% of the total square footage of the unit? Is there a site that drills down to this level of detail to make sure our construction plans are legit and can be warranted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that the 2nd level of a loft cannot be more than 30% of the total square footage of the unit? Is there a site that drills down to this level of detail to make sure our construction plans are legit and can be warranted?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/09/20/calculating-square-footage-in-san-francisco-comment-du-jour/comment-page-1/#comment-2383</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blueprint is still a term that is used widely Sophie. Nothing to be ashamed of as for your language skills. Some people on here like to take unnecessary jabs. Be proud of the fact that you speak three languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blueprint is still a term that is used widely Sophie. Nothing to be ashamed of as for your language skills. Some people on here like to take unnecessary jabs. Be proud of the fact that you speak three languages.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/09/20/calculating-square-footage-in-san-francisco-comment-du-jour/comment-page-1/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey.. my blue prints ARE blue (I just rolled them again)



and for spelling... I do what I can. English is my third language :-(

[&lt;strong&gt;Editor&#039;s note&lt;/strong&gt;: Sophie, Thank you for not getting worked up about Duggo&#039;s comment.  I had my finger on the delete button.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey.. my blue prints ARE blue (I just rolled them again)</p>
<p>and for spelling&#8230; I do what I can. English is my third language <img src='http://thefrontsteps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[<strong>Editor's note</strong>: Sophie, Thank you for not getting worked up about Duggo's comment.  I had my finger on the delete button.]</p>
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		<title>By: duggo</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/09/20/calculating-square-footage-in-san-francisco-comment-du-jour/comment-page-1/#comment-2381</link>
		<dc:creator>duggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody calls them &quot;blueprints&quot; anymore...that term went out about 15 years ago.



But I digress..



Idle rants like the previous one just bore me. the spelling and grammar just get worse and worse.



whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody calls them &#8220;blueprints&#8221; anymore&#8230;that term went out about 15 years ago.</p>
<p>But I digress..</p>
<p>Idle rants like the previous one just bore me. the spelling and grammar just get worse and worse.</p>
<p>whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/09/20/calculating-square-footage-in-san-francisco-comment-du-jour/comment-page-1/#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Anybody care about quality of life in this great city?&lt;/cite&gt;

Yes, we do. Thats the reason why we were so reluctant to buy a house with ANYTHING done, and we would mentally add &quot;clean to the studs&quot; toany house we would visit. OK, most houses could be moved in quite of fast, but unless you live in a house, you cannot feel needed improvments.

So... we bought a perfectly movin house, ... and we redo it.



yes, it&#039;s not financially sane (at least not toflip the house), but quality of life is great... you tailor your house to the tiniest details - incorporate a TON of green features, and the house becomes a home.

What (sorry, I dont mean you, I just generalize) architects miss most is long term maintenance. We made some changes to the blue prints to make that drain 4 times easier to unclog/clean, that area to hose down, this item to self clean etc...



When visiting, most of houses were screaming &quot;last minut remodeling as part of the staging&quot; and we would automatically deduce the amount of money to undo the damage from the potential price.

Yes, we didnt get one specific house that &quot;presented&quot; better than ours (and was red tagged by the city for illegal work)... but for a better price, we got nearly twice as much footage, and we are making it present at least as well as the other one AND it was done with permits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Anybody care about quality of life in this great city?</cite></p>
<p>Yes, we do. Thats the reason why we were so reluctant to buy a house with ANYTHING done, and we would mentally add &#8220;clean to the studs&#8221; toany house we would visit. OK, most houses could be moved in quite of fast, but unless you live in a house, you cannot feel needed improvments.</p>
<p>So&#8230; we bought a perfectly movin house, &#8230; and we redo it.</p>
<p>yes, it&#8217;s not financially sane (at least not toflip the house), but quality of life is great&#8230; you tailor your house to the tiniest details &#8211; incorporate a TON of green features, and the house becomes a home.</p>
<p>What (sorry, I dont mean you, I just generalize) architects miss most is long term maintenance. We made some changes to the blue prints to make that drain 4 times easier to unclog/clean, that area to hose down, this item to self clean etc&#8230;</p>
<p>When visiting, most of houses were screaming &#8220;last minut remodeling as part of the staging&#8221; and we would automatically deduce the amount of money to undo the damage from the potential price.</p>
<p>Yes, we didnt get one specific house that &#8220;presented&#8221; better than ours (and was red tagged by the city for illegal work)&#8230; but for a better price, we got nearly twice as much footage, and we are making it present at least as well as the other one AND it was done with permits.</p>
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		<title>By: duggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>duggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on what &quot;easy&quot; means to you.



You know, I&#039;ve read and contributed to this blog for a few months now..and my observation and underlying perception is that it&#039;s really about just one thing:



Do it quick.

Do it as cheaply as possible.

Avoid permits at all costs.

Cheat on the square footage.

Flip it.

Take the obscene, greedy  profits.



Start over.



No, I&#039;m not naive. No, I&#039;m not stupid. I&#039;ve been an SF resident for 33 years and a homeowner for 23 years.



Anybody care about quality of life in this great city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on what &#8220;easy&#8221; means to you.</p>
<p>You know, I&#8217;ve read and contributed to this blog for a few months now..and my observation and underlying perception is that it&#8217;s really about just one thing:</p>
<p>Do it quick.</p>
<p>Do it as cheaply as possible.</p>
<p>Avoid permits at all costs.</p>
<p>Cheat on the square footage.</p>
<p>Flip it.</p>
<p>Take the obscene, greedy  profits.</p>
<p>Start over.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not naive. No, I&#8217;m not stupid. I&#8217;ve been an SF resident for 33 years and a homeowner for 23 years.</p>
<p>Anybody care about quality of life in this great city?</p>
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		<title>By: BoomTime</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoomTime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys - Is it easy to just get unwaranted space converted quickly right before one sells?  If you have 100/sqft of unwarranted, but warrantable spce, doesn&#039;t it behoove you to convert say 3 months before you plan to sell if your neighborhood is selling for $800/sqft or $80,000 more bucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys &#8211; Is it easy to just get unwaranted space converted quickly right before one sells?  If you have 100/sqft of unwarranted, but warrantable spce, doesn&#8217;t it behoove you to convert say 3 months before you plan to sell if your neighborhood is selling for $800/sqft or $80,000 more bucks?</p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chelsea -- Mourinho was not happy with the level of autonomy he was given. The big man was not happy with the style, results, or attendance. Did you see what happened during the Aston Villa game when Abramovich  walked out early, all cameras on him? Ouch. That was apparently the writing on the wall.



But that&#039;s only half the story, as they say. In my opinion Mourinho left because he knew they were no match for the revamped young Gunners side! Cesc Fabergas, y&#039;all! http://sports.yahoo.com/fbgb/teams/ars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chelsea &#8212; Mourinho was not happy with the level of autonomy he was given. The big man was not happy with the style, results, or attendance. Did you see what happened during the Aston Villa game when Abramovich  walked out early, all cameras on him? Ouch. That was apparently the writing on the wall.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s only half the story, as they say. In my opinion Mourinho left because he knew they were no match for the revamped young Gunners side! Cesc Fabergas, y&#8217;all! <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/fbgb/teams/ars" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/fbgb/teams/ars</a></p>
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		<title>By: FogCityBrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>FogCityBrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie, as I mentioned in the original post, this guideline was sent to me from the tax assessors office. It clearly states to exclude openings to the floor below. Not much room for interpretation or debate on that! They are the final authority on this matter.



My house contains a double height living space, the area for that volume is counted once, not twice; As it should be, and as is logical. As another poster mentioned sqft is but one factor. Perhaps cubic feet would be a better measure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie, as I mentioned in the original post, this guideline was sent to me from the tax assessors office. It clearly states to exclude openings to the floor below. Not much room for interpretation or debate on that! They are the final authority on this matter.</p>
<p>My house contains a double height living space, the area for that volume is counted once, not twice; As it should be, and as is logical. As another poster mentioned sqft is but one factor. Perhaps cubic feet would be a better measure!</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;subtract voids (double height spaces).&lt;/cite&gt;

from my understanding, this is not true.

cf the post (where was it?) about the loft which has 900 first floor and its MLS shows 1800 (2 virtual FULL floors)  instead of 1200 (900main floor+300 of &quot;inside balcony&quot;).

Or are the live/work lofts another loophole in the sqftage?



I just measures out our house, and I find 3% more than numbers on the blue prints.... ok - not that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>subtract voids (double height spaces).</cite></p>
<p>from my understanding, this is not true.</p>
<p>cf the post (where was it?) about the loft which has 900 first floor and its MLS shows 1800 (2 virtual FULL floors)  instead of 1200 (900main floor+300 of &#8220;inside balcony&#8221;).</p>
<p>Or are the live/work lofts another loophole in the sqftage?</p>
<p>I just measures out our house, and I find 3% more than numbers on the blue prints&#8230;. ok &#8211; not that bad.</p>
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