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	<title>Comments on: 636 Steiner&#8230;an offer and a UFC style beat down!</title>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/26/636-steineran-offer-and-a-ufc-style-beat-down/comment-page-1/#comment-10706</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, they are not happy about the reduction in the value.&quot; if you don&#039;t sell, you have lost nothing.
And if they had waited... anything could have had happened - from being denied a mortgage, to caving to the pressure and buying something they wouldn&#039;t like/appreciate, not forgetting being outbid 23 more times on dropping asking prices - but closing prices not falling as much.

And some newly built houses burn to the ground. 

Sometimes it&#039;s not about the almighty power winninfg ... but it&#039;s about being content with what one has - and being successful at avoiding disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, they are not happy about the reduction in the value.&#8221; if you don&#8217;t sell, you have lost nothing.<br />
And if they had waited&#8230; anything could have had happened &#8211; from being denied a mortgage, to caving to the pressure and buying something they wouldn&#8217;t like/appreciate, not forgetting being outbid 23 more times on dropping asking prices &#8211; but closing prices not falling as much.</p>
<p>And some newly built houses burn to the ground. </p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s not about the almighty power winninfg &#8230; but it&#8217;s about being content with what one has &#8211; and being successful at avoiding disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: thefrontsteps</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/26/636-steineran-offer-and-a-ufc-style-beat-down/comment-page-1/#comment-10703</link>
		<dc:creator>thefrontsteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

They were ultimately successful in getting a home, and are happy living where they are.  However, they are not happy about the reduction in the value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>They were ultimately successful in getting a home, and are happy living where they are.  However, they are not happy about the reduction in the value.</p>
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		<title>By: fluj</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/26/636-steineran-offer-and-a-ufc-style-beat-down/comment-page-1/#comment-10701</link>
		<dc:creator>fluj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zillow Zestimates aren&#039;t worth anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zillow Zestimates aren&#8217;t worth anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m &quot;Mark&quot; in the thread above who posted that &quot;your clients were lucky they didn’t get the place. Prices are falling, not rising. Patience will be rewarded.&quot;

Per Property Shark, 636 Steiner closed for $975k on 8/20/2007.  Per Zillow, the Zestimate for 636 Steiner as of today (8/25/09) is $825k.

I&#039;m thinking that your clients really did dodge a bullet here, and I&#039;m curious: Were they ultimately &quot;successful&quot; in completing a transaction in 2007 or did they continue to be lucky though 2007 and be outbid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m &#8220;Mark&#8221; in the thread above who posted that &#8220;your clients were lucky they didn’t get the place. Prices are falling, not rising. Patience will be rewarded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Per Property Shark, 636 Steiner closed for $975k on 8/20/2007.  Per Zillow, the Zestimate for 636 Steiner as of today (8/25/09) is $825k.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking that your clients really did dodge a bullet here, and I&#8217;m curious: Were they ultimately &#8220;successful&#8221; in completing a transaction in 2007 or did they continue to be lucky though 2007 and be outbid?</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/26/636-steineran-offer-and-a-ufc-style-beat-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for The client - just a word of encouragement.

We bought the ~330th property we visited (open houses over 7 months - nearly all of them seriously targeted) - and we visited 20 more properties while waiting to close - just in case we wouldnt close (very strange sellers).



I would do it all over again. We set a foot in our house and at the second - we KNEW it was the right one. And yes, it needed some serious cosmetic - something very easy to do compared to adding a 1000sqft extention (needed in many houses we visited). We got it - and we were the ONLY offer - something totaly unexpected considering the war that went on about a very similar close-by property the same week. WHO KNOWS????



Anyway. Dont give up. Alex is a great agent - knows the city very well and I believe he&#039;s appreciated and respected by most good agents in the city - your wild card if needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for The client &#8211; just a word of encouragement.</p>
<p>We bought the ~330th property we visited (open houses over 7 months &#8211; nearly all of them seriously targeted) &#8211; and we visited 20 more properties while waiting to close &#8211; just in case we wouldnt close (very strange sellers).</p>
<p>I would do it all over again. We set a foot in our house and at the second &#8211; we KNEW it was the right one. And yes, it needed some serious cosmetic &#8211; something very easy to do compared to adding a 1000sqft extention (needed in many houses we visited). We got it &#8211; and we were the ONLY offer &#8211; something totaly unexpected considering the war that went on about a very similar close-by property the same week. WHO KNOWS????</p>
<p>Anyway. Dont give up. Alex is a great agent &#8211; knows the city very well and I believe he&#8217;s appreciated and respected by most good agents in the city &#8211; your wild card if needed.</p>
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		<title>By: theFrontSteps</title>
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		<dc:creator>theFrontSteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boomtime,

We thought for all of your trouble you went through listing those properties above, we&#039;d post your comment on the front page as &lt;a href=&quot;http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/29/incredible-boomtime/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s own post&lt;/a&gt; for any of those that would like to discuss it with more people than are just following this thread, which should remain about 636 Steiner, if possible.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boomtime,</p>
<p>We thought for all of your trouble you went through listing those properties above, we&#8217;d post your comment on the front page as <a href="http://thefrontsteps.com/2007/07/29/incredible-boomtime/" rel="nofollow">it&#8217;s own post</a> for any of those that would like to discuss it with more people than are just following this thread, which should remain about 636 Steiner, if possible.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Boomtime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomtime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duggo, you shouldn&#039;t be impressed, just stating the way it is.



There are so many people who have hand outs from mom and dad or grandma.  There are 30 yr olds, yes 30 yr olds who still get help from Mom &amp; Dad to buy in SF, and kids who live at home with grandma with no shame.  This is the competition for buyers out there.. not a normal $300k/yr couples  but 300k/yr + help from mom &amp; dad.



The 23 yr old kids making $115,000 will go on to make $300,000 by the time they are 30, pretty much guaranteed.



Quality of life is all about, and if renters can pay my mortgage and then some, and if my assets continue to rise while my debt gets inflated away, i&#039;m all for it! :)



Take a look at 2255 Washington St. for $1.498 mil.  Open house was crazy today.  Square footage?  Not even 1,200sqft with no view.  Bt this sells for asking within 3 weeks.  Lower unit condo too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duggo, you shouldn&#8217;t be impressed, just stating the way it is.</p>
<p>There are so many people who have hand outs from mom and dad or grandma.  There are 30 yr olds, yes 30 yr olds who still get help from Mom &amp; Dad to buy in SF, and kids who live at home with grandma with no shame.  This is the competition for buyers out there.. not a normal $300k/yr couples  but 300k/yr + help from mom &amp; dad.</p>
<p>The 23 yr old kids making $115,000 will go on to make $300,000 by the time they are 30, pretty much guaranteed.</p>
<p>Quality of life is all about, and if renters can pay my mortgage and then some, and if my assets continue to rise while my debt gets inflated away, i&#8217;m all for it! <img src='http://thefrontsteps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Take a look at 2255 Washington St. for $1.498 mil.  Open house was crazy today.  Square footage?  Not even 1,200sqft with no view.  Bt this sells for asking within 3 weeks.  Lower unit condo too.</p>
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		<title>By: duggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>duggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... sounds like Boomtime spells &quot;quality of life&quot;: G R E E D.



I&#039;m so impressed with someone age 23 just out of school making $115 k.



And I&#039;m more impressed with the &quot;kids&quot; on Boomtimes block who live  at home in their mid-20s with granny..Wow..these are the future leaders of our country.



Yea, right..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; sounds like Boomtime spells &#8220;quality of life&#8221;: G R E E D.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so impressed with someone age 23 just out of school making $115 k.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m more impressed with the &#8220;kids&#8221; on Boomtimes block who live  at home in their mid-20s with granny..Wow..these are the future leaders of our country.</p>
<p>Yea, right..</p>
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		<title>By: Boomtime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomtime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg - Check out 2420 Larkin St.  Purchased for $1.7 mil in mid 2005.  Sold for around $4mil this month.  ZING!  1 mil in, 1 mil out.



John, I&#039;m so glad I bought in the &#039;peak&#039; of 1998, 2002, 2003, and 2005.  And I&#039;m so glad i&#039;m buying again at the peak in 2007.   Donno how old you are, or how your finances are, but i&#039;m doing just fine thank you.  I just feel so sorry for so many people who had the means to buy in 1997,98,99,00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07 and who&#039;ve watch asset prices run away from them.  Look at [some other real estate bloggers].  [One is] an ex-investment banker who could have bought over the past 10 years.  He&#039;s 38 now and developed a blog to help cope.  All is good, but I wouldn&#039;t want to be him.

[&lt;strong&gt;Editor&#039;s note&lt;/strong&gt;: We&#039;re trying not to point fingers, so we edited the name.  Keep that in mind for the future.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211; Check out 2420 Larkin St.  Purchased for $1.7 mil in mid 2005.  Sold for around $4mil this month.  ZING!  1 mil in, 1 mil out.</p>
<p>John, I&#8217;m so glad I bought in the &#8216;peak&#8217; of 1998, 2002, 2003, and 2005.  And I&#8217;m so glad i&#8217;m buying again at the peak in 2007.   Donno how old you are, or how your finances are, but i&#8217;m doing just fine thank you.  I just feel so sorry for so many people who had the means to buy in 1997,98,99,00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07 and who&#8217;ve watch asset prices run away from them.  Look at [some other real estate bloggers].  [One is] an ex-investment banker who could have bought over the past 10 years.  He&#8217;s 38 now and developed a blog to help cope.  All is good, but I wouldn&#8217;t want to be him.</p>
<p>[<strong>Editor's note</strong>: We're trying not to point fingers, so we edited the name.  Keep that in mind for the future.]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boomtime sounds like someone who just bought at the peak of the market and trying to justify the purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boomtime sounds like someone who just bought at the peak of the market and trying to justify the purchase.</p>
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